Sunday, March 6, 2011

More Sensitive Claim Ignorance

Found the following comment last night in the General Lounge Group on the ACC Forum Website - , it was underneath the Article last May from the Sunday Star Times (scroll down to the FIFTH Comment) -
neddy, on 17 May 2010 - 06:24 PM, said:
"There is one thting forgotten here and that is that the alternative, Segar House might just work.
In her blog she mentions Kyle McDonald. from his site" Kyle is an experienced psychotherapist who has worked in men's domestic violence programmes as well as mental health and addiction services for both Waitemata District Health Board and the Auckland District Health Board."
Also :"He currently divides his time between public and private practice, also working for Segar House the Auckland District Health Board Specialist Psychotherapy Service. "
If she can tell her story to anyone via the "Net and Twitter, then I fail to see how Group Therapy cannot be explored as it is a very effective tool for chronic PTSD and anxiety as it promotes interaction with others.
She has now to learn strategies to live not just to survive and maybe this could be a tool.
And, there are people who are dying waiting to gt into programs like Asburn Clinic and Segar House and to get the opportunity and turn it down makes no sense to my way of thinking."

Was so "annoyed" I ended up replying with the following:
JustAGirl, on 06 March 2011 - 12:35 AM, said:
It has truly been ages since I've done much online, I only reactivated my blog in the last week, and last year when I was writing it and tweeting also I must say I didn't have much time or regard to search the net for ignorant statements such as this.
I wonder 'Neddy' why you are even a member on this forum with what you wrote about about ME.
Segar House is an awesome effective wonderful treatment. So is Women's Refuge, CADS, and how about the Heart Bypass surgery too! All of these things are proven to work WHERE NEEDED.
I have Chronic PTSD, what Segar offer that could in anyway be a part of my therapy at the moment would be DBT Therapy, a program of which I fully completed with the ADHB Public Mental Health Service about 6 or 7 years ago, I learnt some valuable coping tools and strategies, however one of the big 'rules' is NOT TALKING ABOUT past specific trauma. None of my Treatment Providers at any time has recommended that I go to Segar House, OR have even made a referral.
And as far as you relating my 'ability' at Group Therapy with my attempting to be publicly open with my journey - I'm not sure what Clinical reason you would use to associate the two.
I attended and participated fully in Group Therapy when I was in a Drug Rehab Center 8 years ago, so it is not something that I am ignoring to try and make some point - you are right that it is an effective tool. But to talk about the intimate details about sexual trauma? In a Group with other vulnerable people, with males and females there? In your esteemed Clinical Opinion with the little you know about me you think I should be there? Well, good on you for choosing to sound so small minded.
ANY other crime, and/or victim of that crime can write, talk, go on tv, online, in the paper - even just chat over coffee about that experience - whether it be having your car stolen, bag snatched, house robbed or even some random unwarranted verbal or physical assault someone might experience at a bar - all of these and more are discussed with no judgement placed upon the choice to share this information.
NOT SO for Rape, Sexual Abuse & Assault, and Domestic Violence. Every word I write on my blog or tweet I know that I am exposing myself, and feel uncomfortable, embarrassed and a little bit proud all at the same time. The thing you might have missed while you zero'ed in on 'Segar House' is that I kept EVERYTHING a secret for many, many years - partially attributed to attitudes like yours - that some measly few pages of words about 15 years of trying to live with what happened to me kept hidden could possibly sum up or provide enough information for anyone not involved to make judgments like yours is insulting.
I desperately hope that by telling my story and the other few brave Kiwi's doing the same that it will increase awareness of Victim's needs and rights, and that through de-stigmatization that maybe, just maybe, some other victim of these kind of crimes out there might just have a little more information and understanding, support and faith in the system to be able to ask for help a little earlier that the years and years that I waited; and hopefully praying that these people will have some chance to not end up in the situations that I have because of what happened.
Did you know that the basic cost to an offender incarcerated in a New Zealand Prison is $90,000 a year? But it's often more for convicted Child Molesters because of extra need for monitoring for their safety and higher medical costs.
IF I CAN TELL MY STORY TO ANYONE ON TWITTER OR THE NET????
Really? It's archaic views that keep Rape Victim's quiet - Yes, I have gone way outside my comfort zone with telling PART of my story - but I stand by that decision, it wasn't one I made lightly or easily - but as I said in that Sunday Star Times and throughout my blog I MADE THAT DECISION NOT JUST FOR MYSELF BUT FOR PAST, CURRENT & FUTURE RAPE VICTIMS. Has something really terrible ever happened to you or anyone you love? Well, if it hasn't already you better hope that if what happened to me EVER happens to anyone that you care about that the ACC Sensitive Claims Clinical Pathway that I and a few others are fighting so hard (and it's fricken painful Ned) to make right is going to be there and adequate.
Over the next few weeks and months on my blog I will be posting reports post-dating this comment you made (if you are truly interested in the facts) , and also the results of my taking Dr Peter Jensen's decision to Court - and for now everything he & his amigo's have said has been seen through like the transparent lies with an underlying agenda that it was.
I know people who have received twice as many funded hours as me under their Sensitive Claim, one of them is just now completing a PhD, top of the class, and another that runs a very successful inner-city company - no one knows their secrets, and I know that I have forever blown my anonymity regarding being raped, but someone had to stand up to what the National Government was trying to do, heading towards privatising ACC - and the big picture with Australian Insurance Companies is that there is no room for victims of rape or sexual abuse.
Kind thanks to other's that have commented with interest or support on the article from last year.

JustAGirl
Danielle

Have calmed down about it this morning, but after re-reading what this person wrote, and then what I wrote still agree with what I responded with (always a relief!).

Let me just say that www.accforum.org is actually a very useful, helpful, supportive, informative and well set up site. If you are having ANY issues to do with ACC at all, in any way, shape or form there will be a post, discussion, or person on there I bet with something to say about what you want to know or discuss. I just wanted to clear up that anywhere we go in life, including the internet I know we all come across people like Ned, but in this case it's not what I have found to be an accurate reflection of this Forum.

Bad, bad nightmares, last night, so thanks to all that DBT Training years ago, and my past therapy, know that I need to just concentrate on self-care when I am this tired; Both for my well-being, but also to try my best to stop the slide from tired, flat & anxious...well, to something worse, especially am trying really hard not to act out with my cutting. Everything seems kind of grey though when I'm like this, it's like not being able to think of any activity, like a walk, or a dvd, through to things like music, or a meal I feel like eating - nothing that I can think of to make me feel better. But part of what I had learned and was practicing in Therapy, was to just do it anyway - similar to what I learned in the 12 Step Rooms, fake it till you make it, similar concept.
It's hard not to not get in that loop of despairing about how much worse nights are since this debacle with ACC SCU made the choice to f%&k with my progress. BUT - not thinking about that today, it hurts too much and I'm too tired!!

So a v.quiet day for me & Molly I hope.

Sending much love & healing prayers to all Canterburians out there, those who are doing it tough, hang in there - it is amazing what we humans have the ability to survive. I have no idea what you are going through, what you've experienced, but I know the long-lasting effects of trauma can be minimised by talking with, supporting, and listening to, your loved one's and those close to you in these trying time's.
Kiha kaha Christchuch ♥


Just A Girl

4 comments:

  1. Good on you for standing up for what you believe in and what is right. There will always be people like Neddy who are ill-informed or just want to believe something else. (I am sure there is someone out there who believes the moon is made of cheese.)

    I said something like this on another persons blog, but it is hard for some people to understand mental health issues as our natural human reaction is to be sceptical. History does not really help the matter either with poor treatment of people with mental issues. However there are people who are willing to listen, help out and support your beliefs and you, amongst others, have been great advocates for the rights of victims of sexual abuse. Keep up the good work. I for one am glad you had gone public as I have learnt a lot and gotten to know some wonderful and brave people.

    BTW: It always amazes me how you could be in such a bad place and yet show so much compassion to others.

    Take care.

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  2. I've used ACC Forum in the past, and found it really helpful. But yes, there will always be some who think they are the experts on how others should be running their lives. I'm sorry you encountered someone who thinks like that.

    Was this comment in a thread that you knew about? If not, the comment seems a bit underhanded. But don't let detractors sidetrack you from healing...

    Take care,
    CG

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  3. I am sorry that you make a judgement about me without knowing me.

    If you even thought that I might just be coming from a place similar to yours and that I might not be using "head" knowledge but actual experience, maybe you then might see I am not having a go.

    I do not want too fight you or with you, you have enough battles of your own

    I apologise for hurting your feelings, but I was trying to help you in a difficult time by suggesting you grab any help you could get to keep you afloat while you tried to sort things out.

    We, the abused, yes I include myself here, due to the effects of Chronic PTSD, sometimes do not have the cognitive connections we need when we interact such as on this forum and may make a comment that seems provocative when that is the furthest thing from their mind

    I hope your therapy goes well and that you can utilise what time you have been allocated for some effect.

    Go well,

    Neddy

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  4. Hi Ned,

    I will accept your apology, and will take on your wishes that my therapy goes well.

    However, I debated letting this comment through, especially since you've only chosen to put it here and not on the ACCForum website, but in the interests of fairness I let all comments that arn't just spam.

    I have no made a judgement about you Neddy, I made a judgement about the Words You Chose to Write About Me - and I also took the time to view other posts you have made on the forum before I replied. I at no time in my response to you commented on your person, I wrote directly too what YOU WROTE ABOUT ME.

    IF you had taken the time to read enough of My Blog to say correctly:
    "that I might just be coming from a place similar to yours and that I might not be using "head" knowledge but actual experience, maybe you then might see I am not having a go"
    ... then you would have so easily been able to see that the Article in the Sunday Star Times was a presentation and abbreviation of two sides to what was going on, the side of Me & my very highly qualified Treatment Providers - and those like Peter Jensen & Denise Cosgrove that were trying for an out to provide any further care under my ACC Sensitive Claim by trying to make-up some solution that involved no $$ from them, Segar House. It was a distraction from them, to try and provide some semblance of a reason for crappy decisions around my claim.

    It was and is pretty clear from not only 'my words' on my blog but several different scanned reports from various professionals - not only my treatment providers, but also an ACC appointed Assessor - the results of which supported me remaining with the Treatment Plan that was existing before the ACC train wreak.

    I accept that those of us with mental injury can sometimes have difficulty in conveying what we actually mean with words, if this was the case with what you have written then I am sorry if your feelings are hurt by my response.

    However, I wasn't and will not be sorry for what I wrote. As you pointed out - I have 'gone public' with my story, and with all that pressure that can have I totally reserve the right to comment on anyone that wants to speak about me personally.

    I didn't consider this a fight, not by my terms - I have had comments both on my blog and other places in the internet, positive, negative and in-between - I'm sorry if you feel that by me replying to what you wrote about me I was starting a fight, for me it seemed to be taking up my right as far as anyone's right with being a member of a forum. Even more so than a blog a forum is about being allowed to comment, yes?

    Whether you have actually read my blog and got the wrong end of the stick, or just didn't know enough when you chose to write what you write I don't know. Regardless of this as always I wish only recovery for all victims of abuse and trauma. Good luck with your recovery too, and if Segar House is something that you feel you need it's not something that you have to be "dying for" to take advantage of - simply see a Auckland Procare GP and take it from there.

    Good luck with your own recovery Neddy.

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